Build Your SaaS – bootstrap in 2021

<p>Justin catches up with his old internet friend Paul Jarvis. Today, Paul co-founded <a href="https://usefathom.com/">Fathom Analytics</a> with <a href="https://twitter.com/JackEllis">Jack Ellis</a>: a simple alternative to Google Analytics. Paul is also the author of the book "<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Company-One-Staying-Small-Business/dp/1328972356/">Company of One</a>," which has influenced a whole generation of indie entrepreneurs (and has been reviewed by Cal Newport, Chris Guillebeau, Ben Chestnut, Tiago Forte, and more). Previously, Justin and Paul did a <a href="https://justinjackson.ca/mastermind">weekly mastermind</a>, where they supported and encouraged each other around our indie businesses. They decided to do a catch-up call and recorded it so you could listen in. 👍</p><p><strong>Highlights:</strong><br></p><ul><li>(00:10) - Intro</li> <li>(02:20) - Being off the internet</li> <li>(03:58) - What's a typical day for Paul?</li> <li>(06:21) - Looking back at our Mastermind call</li> <li>(08:08) - There's no beginning and no end</li> <li>(10:36) - Things that are out of your control affect your business</li> <li>(13:08) - Does Justin's surfing metaphor make sense to a surfer?</li> <li>(16:11) - How would you start an indie business in 2023?</li> <li>(22:05) - You've got to get in motion</li> <li>(25:08) - Using products in your category for a long time</li> <li>(27:53) - Is there still any room in Saas?</li> <li>(31:56) - The act of making the bet</li> <li>(38:45) - Is freelancing still viable in 2023?</li> <li>(42:55) - Company design is lifestyle design</li> <li>(45:00) - Worrying about being stagnant</li> <li>(47:20) - How do you handle customer feature requests?</li> <li>(52:08) - It's ok to be late to a shift in the market</li> <li>(58:24) - Caring is an indie advantage</li> <li>(01:05:05) - Collaboration is what gets us anywhere</li> </ul><p></p><p>🎙️ <em>Podcast hosting is provided by</em> <a href="https://transistor.fm/?via=rubyblend"><em>Transistor.fm</em></a><em>.<br>📺 Learn </em><a href="https://transistor.fm/how-to-start-a-podcast/"><em>how to start your own podcast</em></a><em>!</em></p><br><strong>Links:</strong><ul><li><a href="https://usefathom.com/ref/EJPZOB">Fathom Analytics</a> (get $10 off)</li><li>Book: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Company-One-Staying-Small-Business/dp/1328972356">Company of One</a></li><li>Article: <a href="https://justinjackson.ca/mastermind">How to Start a Mastermind</a></li><li>Wayback Machine: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20061101221801/http://haveamint.com/">Mint Analytics</a></li><li>Article: <a href="https://justinjackson.ca/new-saas">Why we moved from courses to SaaS</a></li><li><a href="https://justinjackson.ca/self-publishing-hangout">Self-Publishing Hangout</a>: Paul Jarvis, Nathan Barry, Sacha Greif, Justin Jackson</li></ul><p><br></p> <strong>Thanks to our monthly supporters</strong> <ul> <li>Pascal from sharpen.page</li> <li>Rewardful.com</li> <li>Greg Park</li> <li>Mitchell Davis from RecruitKit.com.au</li> <li>Marcel Fahle, wearebold.af</li> <li>Bill Condo (@mavrck)</li> <li>Ward from MemberSpace.com</li> <li>Evandro Sasse</li> <li>Austin Loveless</li> <li>Michael Sitver</li> <li>Dan Buda</li> <li>Colin Gray</li> <li>Dave Giunta</li> </ul> <strong> <a href="https://www.patreon.com/jonjustin" rel="payment" title="★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★">★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★</a> </strong>